TNT Call notes 21-August-2015
Tony: Good morning, Texas and everyone else on TNT! Today is Friday, August 21, 2015. This could be a really short call, but I’ll let you talk about what you want. Everyone is still waiting. They are still on standby at the banks, ready to start at 8pm EST last night. It could be today, any time over this weekend. All the laws have been passed, the agreements have been done, it could happen at any moment. More laws were passed in Parliament last night. Everything has been done or it wouldn’t have been on standby for over a month now. Everything has been achieved.
Every day we get intel from Baghad with three articles per day about their value and the redenomination. They are looking for it EVERY DAY. They are actively trying to hide it from US citizens over there because that is what they are being told to do. They are being told in writing that a 25K dinar not will be worth $75, so we know that the rate will be over $3. If I’ve been telling you that, and saying that you will be paid every month regularly, and it’s now the 21st of the month and you still haven’t been paid… and you have passed all the laws… what would you now be expecting? To be paid! If it doesn’t happen and pretty darn soon, that will be the last straw!
The 24th or the 1st is when they say they will be issuing bonds again, and it makes sense to have your currency out before then. Do it on the same day with all that confusion? I wouldn’t do it that way. Everyone is on the highest of alerts, and the weekends are the perfect time to get this done, so far as the US is concerned because it will let the internet people get done first without a lot of hoopla before the rest of DinarLand. The banks in Iraq are scheduled to be open today – just in case this gets announced. That is only the exchange banks are supposed to be open. The Sabbath is now over in Iraq, and this can be announced whenever they choose.
Here is a great idea. I got the Superfantastic TNT stamp from the guy who did it, and I’m figuring out how to load it on the forum. You can get one of these made up at Office Max or wherever does stamps. I also got a great card; it says “You are superfantastic” with TNT up the middle and also “thank you for being you”. I think this would be a great way for us to give back. A lot of people sacrificed or put themselves in jeopardy for us to be in this game, and they paid it forward for us to get paid. There are 250,000 of us on Twitter, following TNT. Pam did the numbers, and the next day we got over 300,000 who listened to this call. Right now we have 22,000 listeners. We have 6,000,000 dinarians, and each of them affected ten people lives, even for one day, that is 20% of Americans. We can feel good that someone helped our lives with this, and we can change their lives by giving them $100, $1,000 or $10,000. That stamp showing up on FB or Yahoo or the news because someone gave a bonus to waiter, doorman or someone who just needs help, and they see that stamp, it will encourage all of us to do the same. I talked to a lady this morning, and she said, “I KNOW this is happening, because I had breakfast at Cracker Barrel this morning, and someone anonymously paid for everyone’s meal!”
Someone else said that he would walk around with $100 bills in his pocket, and also he intends to order some $500 bills and stamp them with the TNT stamp, because he knows people will keep those and tell others. That will remind us to do similar things. It’s not the people we already told about the currency who didn’t act on it – they had their chance to take up this opportunity. It’s the other people who never found out about this but who could do with some help. I’m going to order a bunch of those $500 bills; I think that is a great idea. “Those to whom much is given, much is expected.” We have been given a lot and we have a responsibility.
828 caller: those are great ways to pay it forward – thanks for sharing those ideas. We are still obviously ready to go, the whole world is waiting without any problems to speak of. Yet, at the last moment, there always seems to be someone ready to step in and cause a problem. Who has the power to do that?
Tony: The US, Russia, China, the IMF – a bunch of people with veto powers. They can step in and say “this has changed and we need to fix it.”
Caller: Wouldn’t everyone say “we’re ready to go – you can’t hold us hostage!”
Tony: They’ve been saying that for months! That’s how a veto works – everyone else has to stop when that happens. When everyone is in agreement, I’ll be sending out a tweet saying the RV is here!
617 caller: I’m confused. They keep saying these countries devaluing their currencies, that this helps us. How?
Tony: The US has been trying to get China to devalue its currency for years. That will bring it in line with the rest of the world so that that can bring them in line with the GCR. China is saying they’re going to let the market control their currency. The real problem is that if the dollar is too strong and everyone de-pegs from it, and that affects our exports and our economy. As the dong goes down, we can buy more of it! Everyone is going to have to adjust for the first six months in terms of markets, exports/imports, forex.
Caller: Thank you for explaining that. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas… so Tony can go!
432 caller: [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: We’re just trying to do the right thing!
770/404 caller: With all the things going on, can you say anything new about the exchange procedures? What’s the status with the contract rates?
Tony: We got some information about how the exchanges are supposed to work in Iraq, who goes first and second, etc. They asked us not to share this, but you need to know that this is happening. I haven’t heard anything about any limits or caps other than we have talked about before (20 million dinar and dong, $500 million total dollars with zim). Haven’t heard anything else about 800 numbers, but have heard some more about locations, how they are set up, and their level of security.
Caller: What are your sources telling you about how this will appear? Will there be an actual announcement or will it just appear? Will it be announced in Iraq?
Tony: We won’t know until after it happens. There will not be a public announcement until 3-4 days after the RV, to give us time to go to the bank before the rest of Dinarland filters in. The five sites will be told first, probably. There will be an announcement over in Iraq – they are looking for it now. Right now, the guys who look at Iraq television get the same news two days later here in the US. They know we have that, too. I don’t expect it to be broadcast five minutes after they do it, though.
Caller: [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas… so Tony can go!
636 caller: I’d still like to get you that pair of boots because you seem to be stepping in it occasionally! [Referring to chitchat before the call] How urgent is it to be this weekend? My mate and I are celebrating our 51st anniversary this weekend at the lake. We will get text messages, and we can come back, but we’d just like an indication.
Tony: I’ve always said that I will work with the powers that be to make this as smooth as possible, whether that is changing the site, sending out a tweet, a call or whatever. I would have a backup with a fellow dinarian, so that if we do send out information, you know they will send you a text as well.
Caller: [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas… so Tony can go as well!
Tony: Pam reminds me that this is First-time Friday, because people are complaining that the same people are on all the time, the ones who wait for hours. So can we do first time callers? Take your hands down yourself if you have been on before and give some other people a chance. I will refresh and see what happens.
936 caller: I’m from Texas. Our governor is a hunter, and he may declare open season on Tony Renfrow! At least we don’t get compared to a granola like California!
Tony: You came to CA, you chose SF over LA, and you compare us to fruit+nuts?! I live 1.5 hours from San Francisco, which I like, but I love LA. [more chitchat]
Caller: My biggest concern is that I’m a paramedic in NE Texas, about three hours from my home. When I’m home, I’m two hours from WF in Houston. I’ve been carrying my currency with me for about a year. Should I try to find a place up here to exchange, or just wait until I get home?
Tony: I think everyone will be okay if you are 2-4 hours away from home. Make your appointment and give yourself time without stress. I don’t like people to carry all their currency around with them all the time because that is your family’s future. If you are travelling, I can understand it, but otherwise…
Caller: We have been working a lot of overtime, so I’m not sure what to do.
Tony: If you are away, out of state, then I get it. But if you are a couple of hours from home, you will have time to get to your appointment.
313 caller: I have one quick question. When we do the last call, will you be able to give us rates?
Tony: I don’t know! I will try to give you the best and most information. I think the rates will be published on our sites. When they give you the numbers, you can call the banks and see what the rates are. You can call each of the banks and see what they quote before your appointments so you will know if they are competitive or not.
909 caller: About the stamp and the $500 bill – won’t they get you for defacing the currency? With all the observation cameras, these days… they might catch you!
Tony: I don’t think the government cares about us stamping the currency. I get currency all the time with stamps or writing on them, and I’ve never heard about anyone having a problem. Let’s say you send out a $500 bill to help someone better their life – the government is going to arrest me and make national news? I don’t think so.
Caller: For Vegas, can you get some t-shirts made for the mods, transcribers and the behind-the-scenes TNT team so that we can identify them and thank them? And will the rates still be about the same as we have heard?
Tony: It’s a good idea. But some of them are behind the scenes on purpose. We will have that discussion with the mods. Yes, the rates are about the same.
941 caller: I have a little information on the currency being stamped – I have seen people arrested for that, and the money confiscated. A better idea might be to use a sticky note; then the person can remove it and still use the money. It depends on who you are and where, I imagine. For instance, if you try to pay a traffic ticket with a stamped bill, they might take action for degrading the currency. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
707 caller: I am the one who sent you the stamp. About the stamp and the thumb drive, I was hoping you could put a link on the forum, people can download the file, and any Office Max can take that file and make up the stamp. I went to the bank to ask about the $500 bills, and they told me they were out of circulation and they cannot get them. I hoped that if you have a connection with the UST, you could maybe get some for us. That bill is a work of art!
Tony: You can Google this: Floyd Merryweather made a bet on the SuperBowl, and they paid him in thousand-dollar bills. There are ways for that to be done. They won’t do it for everyone, but after this you won’t be just anyone. It’s a great idea – and if you can’t do it with $500 bills, do it with $100 bills.
407 caller: I’ve been trying to get on for months! We have one bank here that is open on Sunday; my girlfriend called me about this – she asked them about the dong about six months ago, and the manager almost fell off his chair when he saw the rates. If she had had her dong with her then, she could have exchanged for something like a dollar. Of course she went back the next day, he wasn’t there, and the rate was way down. You see that a lot goes on we don’t know about, but this is really real.
Tony: Yes, they do things like that after hours. Last week a lady actually did a rupiah exchange – it was 5pm, she was there at the right time, made 7K really quickly, went back the next day and the rates had changed again.
Caller: A while ago I was with my daughter in another state and we went to the library; right there at the circulation desk was a 3-D printer! It was printing all kinds of little objects. I had never seen one of these before, and it was just after you mentioned it on a call.
Tony: A guy sent me a link to the first 3-D printed drone, just yesterday.
Caller: You always tell us to have Plans A, B and C ready. I’ve been to various places in the Middle East, and I saw a blog which had Abadi sitting with bankers, discussing all the banking laws about paying taxes, etc. After what happened with Sterling, and I recall you saying “If they don’t exchange us, Watergate will be small in comparison”… well, I have my passport ready, but I don’t know what countries will exchange you without being a citizen or a resident.
Tony: They have plans/procedures right now to exchange everybody. They have done the numbers and know it is feasible to exchange everybody. They have worked out the contracts rates, too. I can’t seem them choosing the public fight with everyone instead.
It’s good to have a backup plan, for sure. In most countries, you have to show that you are a citizen of that country in order to exchange there. So if you want to exchange in some other country, the first thing is to move, get dual citizenship, or get a partner in that country who you hope and trust will pay your share back to you.
281 caller: If this happens in the middle of the night, how soon will you let us know?
Tony: when this first started, if this came at 3am, I would let you know at 3.15am, with a tweet, a call, starting the party on the phone. Now something else has been requested. So that we don’t have total chaos, I’m willing to do whatever they request. I’ll have to see what that timeline is. I know that I’m going to know – I have too many contacts NOT to be informed. They don’t tell me ahead of time, but I’ll have to see what I’m able to do. I’ve waited five years to be woken up in the middle of the night myself, and I have no problem waking up anyone else.
Caller: Are there other countries pushing this forward now?
Tony: A lot of countries are pushing for this, requesting it, letting us know that these delays are hurting their economies. It will keep going until it snowballs. Once it goes, it will also go here in the US.
Caller: Thank you, and I hope you enjoy Vegas!
Tony: We are hoping to do the training/party in Sacramento, NC, Michigan, Atlanta, and some Texas people are agitating for it as well.
Caller: I would go to any of those other places; I just don’t like Las Vegas!
423 caller: Whooo! I got dropped last week after holding for five hours! Here’s my question: even though it looks all set up with notifications and everyone on standby and rates on the screens… is this all a process that was never going to happen all those earlier weekends but they were using it to flush out Maliki or whatever? Is there some specific thing they are trying to accomplish?
Tony: I have been told that by some government people who were told to tell me this or that, etc., who apologized but pointed to what that let them accomplish. They could be doing the exact same thing right now, but for the last month I’ve been hearing “everyone is ready” every day… then they found all this dinar in this plane or buried there, or they have restricted those people over there. Do they listen to TNT? I don’t’ know. I do know some security guys in Baghdad, and they walk thorough the city and people are listening to TNT! They ask who you are and if you are African-American because of your accent. It attracts good and bad elements, and it might be helping them track people and/or locations. We just don’t know when it’s real or not, whether they are just tracking leaks, or whatever. We know that some Iraqi sources had their doors kicked in and computers confiscated, and in this country people have lost their jobs just through giving us intel.
I have been called by three or four different banks (and countries) and see if they are doing what they are saying, then we try to decide what is true and what’s BS. We also get a steady stream of BS; we talk to each other, and we know that sometimes they just want us to put stuff out. Sometimes we do, and sometimes we don’t because we don’t believe it and it doesn’t fit the pattern. We do the best we can to help the people and not disrupt the process; so long as we get what we are supposed to get, we don’t want to mess with the process otherwise.
Caller: I get it. But so many people have got their hopes off. After 300 times, of crying wolf, why should we believe any of it any more?
Tony: This morning we talked about it. The boy can cry wolf until he runs out of breath, but one day that wolf will show up for real, and all I have to do is to wait for that wolf. Every day I get the information and even our team says, “Yeah, how many times have we heard that?” but that is the information we are getting from the banks saying they missed their kids’ birthday party and they are playing cards with their cell phones in a bowl, and they are just as frustrated as we are, but they also know that one day they will be paid.
Caller: If they are on standby, why should they also be on lockdown?
Tony: They’ve been in place to do this immediately, but that has happened too many times, so the plan changed. Now they are waiting until this is done and then will call their people in. They still have meetings and memos about how to set accounts up for this new level of high-level depositors… they are doing all that, so that is why we are looking at their actions rather than their words. Also, they are exposing to more and more of their own employees. Once you see the big picture, you understand the process and the role you played in it, then I cannot be mad, because that’s how things happen in the world. I am more astonished that I am that involved in the process, some of the people who have contacted me, etc. I was only supposed to be here for a week! Maybe that’s what had given me the patience I’ve had – I see how it’s going and what’s more important is what we do afterwards, once we control our own destiny. Now we just have the patience to do that. After everything that has been projected, after they said they would cut their salaries in half for government officials (and the reasoning behind it), but then Abadi said that they will – they haven’t paid the people who were supposed to be paid this month, so why didn’t they do that? They will have to pay them sooner or later, and if they don’t do it the way they said, then there will be predictable problems, so I that does give me confidence that this really is going to happen.
Ray: It’s Friday! Are we finally going to see it? We’ll find out together. Continue to enjoy the weekend and we’ll see what happens as the day unfolds.
Tony: I think it’s a great day and weekend. Everyone is excited. The banks thought it would go last night, it didn’t, and it could go any moment. There is a plan out there to do this very soon, within days, and it’s a good plan for there and here, and I think we will hear about it. We are not in the bank right now, but I see us there in the very near future based on the information I have… by Monday morning if not before. I would have my plan ready to put in motion at a moment’s notice. Oh, and there will be no [verbatim] transcript today. Thank you!
