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Reader Charles: "Anna; THANK YOU FOR THE EVIDENCE"

Posted By: hobie
Date: Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 06:06:35
www.rumormill.news/211581

In Response To: From Anna von Reitz: "We have already published the absolute reasoning and proof — provided by Family Guardian, by the way— that ..." (hobie)

(Thanks, C. :)

Reader Charles Miller replies:

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Re: From Anna von Reitz: 'We have already publ....

PART III

Anna; THANK YOU FOR THE EVIDENCE.

Anna, your response to me, C C.M in specific is accepted as a good faith effort to engage in some sort of dialogue.
A first for me and a herd of others. We, all those that have challenged you prior, hope and pray that a new and better communication system will now open.

Please advise of location of published verification documents as referenced.

However, not addressing the formal requests for proof of claims by simply providing the verified public records you claim to operate under is the hallmark of Admission and Confession, that no such records exists or that they are not as declared, or that re-constructions applied to valid public records are fatally defective.

Please correct my understanding that forced consent, or consent obtained by deception, fraud or mistake are void and when continued after being identified as such, result in either slavery or the enticement to slavery, trespass, theft and conversion.

Every law system has the time honored condition that an allegation not denied is admitted as true.
Please expose to we of the mere public asking questions, where we could find the records and operating systems you declare you stand upon. Inquiring minds want to know!

The relevant point here is, claims with out evidence of a competent nature being in open public view, the claims are at best naked assertions of a baseless nature.

I am very familiar with Family Guardian web site and have been for years. I do not recognize nor agree that the site is a perfectly credible source. Public record, yes.
My own long term research in varied and numerous archives and personal experience over 29 years have shown me that Trust but Verify for one’s self is the only responsible position.
More the point, my personal experiences and that of many many others show that faulty positions are found every where all the time.

Your response directed to me, follows your well practiced template of never directly responding to direct challenges and then adding off point, non relevant, conjectures styled as properly referenced and verified facts which you fail to produce.
The failure to produce is the issue and only issue.

It appears your citing Family Guardian as the source of your naked claims is a very strong indicator that you believe BOLSTERING your positions by others is more relevant and honorable than simply producing the proofs in hand, records verifying claims that you present.
Presentation of the records, complete records, would either crush my challenges or expose the defects in your claims.

It would seem to me that most thinking people would welcome the opportunity to better their positions and make them stronger by having defects exposed so they could be addressed and remedied.

In my PART II response I linked and article outlining why governments and corporations are not corrupt. The simple fact is glaringly obvious to those who simply and directly apply common sense and logic.
WORDS ON PAPER CREATING AN ENTITY, GOVERNMENT, CORPORATION OR RELIGION, CAN NOT SPEAK, SIGN ITS NAME, HIT SOMEONE IN THE MOUTH.
THESE CONSTRUCTED ENTITIES ARE ABSOLUTELY EMPOWERED OR LIMITED BY THE DOCUMENT THAT CONSTRUCTS THEM.
The Four Corners doctrine controlling all written documents clears up a massive amount of misconstruction.
The actors claiming agency and authority to operate the entity employ the entity as cover for their acts and omissions.
Buying that kind of logic, the agent is the same as the entity, destroys the premise when the actual entity as constructed by words on paper is accessed and reviewed. The result of that review is invariably the exposure that the entity does not hold positions, powers, or authorities claimed by the agent.

This point is perfectly relevant and material to much of your output and position papers and claims.
Rather than recognize that all of your works rely on the First Amendment and other Declarations of Rights and legal protections, your positions say the principles, facts and laws contained therein are invalid because those administering the People’s First laws refuse to do so.
How could these Rights not exist when you stand on them?
The confusion created by assuming that mere members of man-kind, public servants, attorneys, regulators, ect. are more powerful than the law and have dominion over others of man-kind, defines the slave in their own mind by giving power to mere servants to the People.
That position is the absolute guarantee that the People’s First Law has no champion when one or boy of the adversaries in the fields of lawfare abandon the law in favor of being ruled by men!

Anna: Perhaps someday you could consider disclosing to me and all of your followers and prior followers the following records.

1. Proof that any government created by the People, lawfully Incorporated, including jurisdiction that issued the corporate charter, identifier number for that charter, the parties the individuals requesting corporate rights set by state constitutions, and the parties owning and operating the corporation and most important the consent vote by the People to convert our Republic form of governments to corporations.

2. Transfer records exposing how a foreign born corporation entered the jurisdictions of the States United, the States United recognition that a foreign corporation as valid in the States, foreign corporations authorities to act as a government, particularly on any American venue under any American jurisdiction, and do business with the People or the Peoples States.

3. Public bankruptcy records identifying the United States alleged bankruptcy operated in accord with constitutional powers of uniform rules wherein the creditors, debtors, and affected parties are identified along with all the assets and types of assets captured by the bankruptcy court.

Public records of the above identified events are perfect evidence of the fact of some happening.
That means no more conjecture, or argument or misconstructions concerning the matters of past events is possible.
When these documents are not presented all the hoopla and misleading crap concerning corporate government and bankruptcy of government dies.
When these events are set straight, then and only then will all the energy wasted discussing them could be turned to finding and recognizing the real facts, and the parties disguised to operate these massive frauds.

Readers, How many of you want the real facts that you can verify for your self what is true and correct?

Readers, how many of you understand that being lead down a deceptive path is a personal choice and the mistakes of yesterday are correctable today which creates a mor stable future when based on principles, facts, laws contained in open public records.

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Articles In This Thread

Anna Von Reitz: "Public and International Notice: I'm the Underwriter"
hobie -- Monday, 14-Nov-2022 06:43:42
Anna Von Reitz: "A Right Versus a Privilege -- the Trap of Incorporation"
hobie -- Monday, 14-Nov-2022 00:19:25
Reader Charles: "I, Charles C. Miller, DO NOT CONSENT to Anna Von Reitz claims of being underwriter or fiduciary in a ..."
hobie -- Wednesday, 16-Nov-2022 05:33:40
Reader: "Endless in-fighting, arguing, and name calling. Pushing, pulling, fighting over the toilet tissue while straining at gnats we collectively circle the drain ..."
hobie -- Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 02:56:41
Reader: "Charles, it seems to me that you may need a history lesson, she is correct in the information that she provides to us."
hobie -- Wednesday, 16-Nov-2022 05:17:14
Reader: "Anna’s work covers the whole spectrum of ..."
hobie -- Wednesday, 16-Nov-2022 05:17:14
Reader Charles: "Part II RESPONSE TO COMMENTS."
hobie -- Thursday, 17-Nov-2022 00:51:24
From Anna von Reitz: "We have already published the absolute reasoning and proof — provided by Family Guardian, by the way— that ..."
hobie -- Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 05:59:56
Reader Charles: "Anna; THANK YOU FOR THE EVIDENCE"
hobie -- Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 06:06:35
From Anna Von Reitz: "Instead of acting as yet another Armchair Quarterback, I suggest that you try what we are currently doing and see ..."
hobie -- Monday, 21-Nov-2022 04:55:06
Reader Charles: "PART IV, AGAIN, ANNA, THANK YOU FOR THE EVIDENCE."
hobie -- Monday, 21-Nov-2022 04:55:06
Reader: '"has anyone ever had a judge confess?" Yes. During 2009, I ...'
hobie -- Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 05:59:56

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