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Reader: "Arguably we need to distinguish between what Christ Jesus actually taught and what the ..."

Posted By: hobie
Date: Thursday, 3-Jun-2021 02:56:57
www.rumormill.news/173773

In Response To: Reader: "Is there a heaven, if no one dies to go there?" (hobie)

Thanks, R. :)

Reader Ron writes:

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Re: Reader: 'Is there a heaven, if no one dies....

G'day Hobie,

I trust that you are well and thriving.

M says among other things that every Christian is taught to know in their core that:

1. God created everything.
2. There are no other Gods.

3. Accept Jesus as his son.


4. When you die, you go to heaven to be with God.

... Christians "know" they are saved if they accept Jesus... as part of their religion.

Arguably we need to distinguish between what Christ Jesus actually taught and what the Pharisees, Roman emperors and neo-Pharisees who created the Christian religion and corrupted Jesus' teachings have foisted upon unsuspecting humanity. Jesus didn't incarnate to create a religion and didn't. He came to reveal divine truths lost over millennia the teaching of which had been corrupted by Pharisees and others.

In particular, he did not come to sacrifice himself to redeem or "save" anyone because he couldn't. Each ensouled human being must 'save' self. WHY? Because EVERY ensouled Human (Higher universal man) is gifted by the Creator with an indwelling spark of Creator consciousness AND a unique personality and free will which makes him or her an only begotten (ie unique) son or daughter of God. As a consequence, every Human is a sovereign individual responsible for his/her own thoughts, decisions, actions, culpable inaction, evolvement and destiny. Accordingly every HUman must personally learn about life the universe and everything and gradually evolve spiritually to 'save' self, ie to become like God. THAT is the purpose of Creation. HUmans are immaterial eternal spirits and hence they have eternity in which to reincarnate and complete this process.

Spirits are immortal. They are NOT their physical bodies (meat suits) which are mortal. No amount of chemical infusions or technological manipulations can make physical matter immortal. That is presumably why the physical human body is constantly shedding cells and replacing them.

Once the Pharisees had arranged for Roman Emperors to establish a false religion in an effort to eliminate divine truths (Revelations) taught by Jesus they distorted his teachings by excluding the Gospel of Thomas and many other books from the Bible. But their biggest coup was getting the Torah included in the Bible as the "Old Testament". That completely compromised Jesus' teaching and created the basis for perpetuating the colossal LIE that Christian truth somehow arose out of Pharisaic bullshit. That perfidious accomplishment has enabled Pharisees and neo-Pharisees to pretend that despite having crucified Jesus they never-the-less happen to be the font of "Judeo-Christian" morality and values and hence the source of the civilisation that Jesus' divine teaching caused to manifest in Europe.

In particular, the Pharisees were not satisfied with forcing the Romans to crucify Jesus and inserting the Torah into the Bible and calling it 'The Old Testament'. They sought to ensure that virtually all references to Jesus' GOOD NEWS such as reincarnation and the fact that EVERY ensouled human being is indwelt by a fragment of Creator consciousness, was deliberately omitted from Christian religious teaching and deleted from the Bible.

Pharisees and neo-Pharisees have censored and distorted successive iterations of Jesus' teachings and the Bible narratives for two millenia, starting with the Pharisee, Saul of Tarsus (St Paul), who denigrated females, subjugating them to males. Subsequently Pharisees and neo-Pharisees continued to manipulate Ecumenical Councils.

The denial of the fact that every ensouled human being is a higher universal man (HUman) because s/he is indwelt by a fragment of the Creator's spirit consciousness and hence sovereign and immortal, was as crucial as the elimination of the truth about reincarnation. Why? Because it led to the infantilisation of Christian religious believers via the false doctrine that Christ Jesus was the ONLY begotten son of God and that he sacrificed himself for the salvation of ALL of humanity. He didn't and couldn't. Jesus' message was that every HUman is gifted by the Creator with a fragment of Creator consciousness AND a unique personality and free will and that, as a consequence, every ensouled human being is a sovereign individual responsible for his/her own thinking, evolvement and destiny. Each HUman must learn about life the universe and everything and evolve spiritually to 'save' self. Moreover, HUmans are eternal spirits and have eternity in which to reincarnate and complete this process.

The Christian religion doesn't tell adherents this truth because Emperor Justinian eliminated virtually all references to Jesus' teaching about reincarnation from the Bible. This was finally achieved during the Fifth Ecumenical Council in 554 AD. At that time Emperor Justinian arrested Pope Vigilius for Believing in Reincarnation and had the Council declare:

If anyone asserts the fabulous preexistence of souls, and shall assert the monstrous restoration which follows from it: let him be anathema. (The Anathemas against Origen), attached to the decrees of the Fifth Ecumenical Council, A.D. 554, in Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, 2d ser., 14: 318). See eg: Pope [Vigilius] Arrested for Believing in Reincarnation - Link http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Pope-Vigilius-Arrested-for-Believing-in-Reincarnation.shtml

Eradication of the doctrine of Reincarnation, ie knowledge that the evolvement of life and hence MIND is based on the reincarnation process (which is essential to enable spirit beings incarnating into physicality to avail themselves of a sufficient number of physical incarnations to adequately explore and understand the immensity of life, the universe and everything) is the method used by the Pharisees and neo-Pharisees, ie Talmudists who call themselves Jews but are not, to convince gentiles (ie all who DO NOT accept Talmudism) that they are merely physical creatures having one, only, lifetime which has no meaning, destiny or purpose.

Concomitantly this LIE, reinforced by the Talmudists' funding and coercion of scientists to accept and promulgate false science about life, the universe and everything as typified by falsely promulgated Darwinian evolutionary theories about the Origin of Species, has made it easy for Talmudists and the Christian religious puppets they control, to instil fear of death into congregations. The truth is scientifically explained by Bruce Lipton. See eg: Bruce Lipton - Fear vs Love State and Stress's Effects on Your Body - Link http://abundanthope.net/pages/Other_Spiritual_Pieces_68/Bruce-Lipton---Fear-vs-Love-State-and-Stress-s-Effects-on-Your-Body.shtml

This process of inserting LIES into Christian teaching and the Bible has made it feasible for Talmudists and materialists generally, to distort human consciousness and science by having scientists, academics, educators and commentators as well as the MSM, promulgate false and ridiculous ideas including the idea that consciousness arises from random chemical reactions. This also enables Talmudists et al to contend that people on this small planet on the edge of the this local universe are the most, and probably the only, consciously intelligent beings in the Cosmos. LOL. Anyone still believing that sthick is gonna get a big surprise very soon.

As regards Christians going to "Heaven" be aware that the Creation is a veryyy BIG material manifestation which,to all intents and purposes, appears to be growing indefinitely. Accordingly there are myriad places to go and innumerable things to do therein. No one sits around on clouds doing nothing with "Jesus".

Once individuals "get it" sufficiently to progress through the cosmos to meet with the Creator they then return to the Creation to assist with its administration and governance. In fact many evolved spirit individuals are here NOW to assist this planet and her inhabitants to cast off her demonic controllers and to enable those who seek to serve others more than self to safely navigate through 4d into 5d.

For more information on how our current ignorance about the teachings of Christ Jesus developed see: Judaism and Christianity - Two Thousand Years of Lies - 60 Years of State Terrorism - Link http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Judaism-and-Christianity---Two-Thousand-Years-of-Lies---60-Years-of-State-Terrorism.shtml

Those seeking greater knowledge about the cosmos and this planet can find a lot of information in the Urantia Book. See eg:
http://library.abundanthope.org/index_htm_files/Urantia%20Book.pdf

Peace and Blessings,

Ron

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Reader: "Is there a heaven, if no one dies to go there?"
hobie -- Wednesday, 2-Jun-2021 05:39:57
Reader: "It's odd but as a Lightworker, it isn't really my job to teach. My job is ..."
hobie -- Thursday, 3-Jun-2021 00:32:00
Confusion...Lucifer's best friend...nm*
oldmaninthedesert -- Thursday, 3-Jun-2021 02:35:19
Reader: "Arguably we need to distinguish between what Christ Jesus actually taught and what the ..."
hobie -- Thursday, 3-Jun-2021 02:56:57
Reader: "Enoch and Elijah did not die and went to spend a lot of time with YHWH and may still be there as far as we know."
hobie -- Thursday, 3-Jun-2021 03:12:47

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