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OKC BOMBINGS---SPLIT IN FBI? **FURTHER DETAILS**

Posted By: SHERMAN SKOLNICK
Date: Friday, 11-May-2001 20:31:47
www.rumormill.news/9285

In Response To: OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBINGS---SPLIT IN FBI? (SHERMAN SKOLNICK)

OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBINGS---SPLIT IN FBI?

FURTHER DETAILS
by Sherman H. Skolnick

5/11/01

skolnick@ameritech.net

http://www.skolnicksreport.com
The following further details in this report might be helpful in
understanding the situation:

1. As stated, the head of the McVeigh defense team, attorney Stephen
Jones, prior to the 1997 McVeigh murder trial, filed a Petition for


Mandamus, an extra-ordinary attempted remedy in the U.S. Court of
Appeals, 10th Circuit, Denver. Because of perceived prejudice against a
fair trial in Oklahoma, the case had been transferred to Denver U.S.
District Judge Richard Matsch. Prior to the beginning of the trial,
Jones was attempting to force Judge Matsch to order the release of
secret records in the possession of U.S. intelligence agencies,
corroborating that U.S. dissidents were secretly surrogates for an Iraqi
revenge plot to carry out a major terrorist attack on an Oklahoma City
federal office building. That these records, also referred to in secret
court records, would show Iraqi complicity, as known in advance by U.S.
intelligence agencies, as referred to in Jones' unpublicized Petition of
some 185
pages.

The spy-riddled monopoly press did not bring out an important detail.
Namely, that Judge Matsch was intimidated into keeping these records
secret to protect the Clinton White House cover-up of the multiple
bombings of the Murrah Building as well as protecting the FBI, the CIA,
the NSA, and others of the spy agency Establishment. How? Judge Matsch's
daughter was apparently murdered. She somehow fell into a volcano in
Hawaii. This apparent murder made the Judge naturally distraught. The
apparent murder example also was known to and intimidated the Federal
Appeals Judges in Denver who after the McVeigh murder trial, conducted
without these highly revealing records, upheld the District Court's
guilty verdict of McVeigh. So both the trial judge and the federal
appeals Judges in Denver had been coerced into going along with a cover
up by murder close to
home.

Will trial Judge Matsch and/or the federal appeals judges, all
apparently intimidated by the apparent murder, do something at this late
date to bring out the true nature of the bombings of a federal office
building in Oklahoma
City?

2. The apparent split in the FBI by which some three thousand records
suddenly showed up also involves the super-secret Federal Emergency
Management Agency, FEMA. Seldom accurately referred to by the
pressfakers, FEMA is not authorized OR FUNDED by Congress. According to
very well placed sources, FEMA secretly funds their covert operations,
planning to run the U.S. FROM ABOVE THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, with huge
funds garnered from the CIA's dope trafficking into the U.S. Vice
President Richard Cheney has promoted the idea that FEMA should take
over all anti-terrorist planning of the U.S., thus excluding the FBI,
and causing a rift between the FBI and FEMA. Yes, FEMA seeks to run the
U.S. from ABOVE the U.S. Constitution and yes, I recognize such a doing
is itself
unconstitutional.

[The martial law edict, quietly signed several years ago by President
Clinton and carried over by alleged "President" or White House
"resident" George W. Bush, provides---now get this---that no judge in
the U.S. has jurisdiction to consider any challenge to the martial law
edict. We are about the only ones publicly stating that several federal
judges in the U.S. wear two hats---one as federal judge, and two,
generally unknown, as FEMA official. One such judge sits in the Federal
Court in Chicago. We pointed all these details out in a several hundred
page documented lawsuit, in January, 1991, against FEMA, in Chicago's
Federal District Court. Yes, a federal judge on behalf of FEMA dismissed
our suit in secret, without any legal
formality.]

3. Despite the military coup planned against Clinton as President,
referred to in our story, Clinton was never concerned. Why? Because he
had reason to know that his rise to and stay in power was orchestrated
with the aid of blackmail and murder. We mentioned how supposed
"Independent Counsel" Kenneth W. Starr was blackmailed. Clinton
benefitted from an epidemic of suspicious if not sabotaged military
aircraft crashes and from the strange death of those who knew too much
about Clinton and about the military coup plot against
him.

One of those who knew too much and was reportedly sympathetic if not
supportive of the coup, was General David McCloud, head of he Alaska
Military District. He died in a sabotaged plane crash. His military
colleagues are aware of the terrible details but refuse to allow a
reporter to publicly identify them or take their position public. His
relatives tend to agree with our
details.

4. Some in the monopoly press, who talk to us off the record and we
agree never to identify them as sources, contend such details as in our
stories, which they believe to be true but cannot go in print or on the
air with them, could well topple the U.S. government. Why? Because the
ruling elite, whose faces are seldom seen, are governing us from behind
the scenes in contradiction of the U.S. Constitution and
laws.

5. Is there a rationale by the ruling elite for the cover up of the true
nature of the bombings of the Murrah Building? They fear, supposedly, a
full scale war with Iraq which now has chemical and biological weapons
as well as some types of nuclear bomb devices. Furthermore, any ruckus
with Iraq over the Murrah Building inevitably would involve the current
German government Establishment. Why? A German counter-intelligence
agent, on behalf of Iraq, supervised the U.S. domestic dissidents in the
limited role outside the Murrah Building while others had already
planted explosive devices INSIDE the building to go off about the same
moment as the ineffective truck fertilizer bomb outside. That
agent,known to the American CIA, reportedly was Andreas Strasmeier,
whose elders reportedly were pro-Hitler. Little understood: German
industry has supplied much of the weaponry for Iraq. And, they built a
60-foot-under-the-ground bomb shelter for Saddam Hussein as well as
other super-secret buildings, machines, and weaponry for Iraq. All while
Germany professes to be pro-West and
pro-U.S.

Also, in our stories about the murder of Clinton White House Deputy
Counsel Vincent W. Foster, Jr., we mentioned that German
Counter-Intelligence [also tied to Strasmeir] in Frankfurt, had advance
knowledge of a foreign team set to murder Foster. [See our website
stories, "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush", Part Four.] And study our
website story about how Foster was part of a team, trying to assist the
FBI, in arresting international swindler Marc Rich, at the Swiss/French
border [Affidavit of former CIA operative Leo
Wanta.]

In an honest world, if McVeigh is to be severely punished for his
limited role in the bombings, also deserving of major punishment would
be William Rockefeller Clinton and his crony, George W. Bush, as well as
the Elder Bush, George Herbert Walker Bush, for their cover up
complicity in the 168 murders on behalf of
Iraq.

6. Timothy McVeigh, a purported expert in secret code usage,
cryptography, has been communicating in code with author Gore Vidal who
was on an extremely short list of those McVeigh wanted to witness his
supposed execution. {Study Gore Vidal's book "1876" and how it predicted
the strange 2000 election. See our website series on the year 2000
alleged election.] Gore Vidal, a third level cousin of Albert Gore,
Jr.,[they are on the outs with each other] reportedly has a witnessed
Affidavit from Timothy McVeigh supposedly setting forth "smoking gun"
details that could scandalize the American government and Presidents
George Herbert Walker Bush, Bill Clinton, and Bush's son, George
W.

How is it that high-level types are so dedicated to destroying and
discrediting the American central government? Isn't this something the
British monarchy and aristocracy have been trying to do since at least
the War of 1812? And British complicity in the murders of President
Abraham Lincoln, President James Garfield, and President William
McKinley, all who opposed the British plans to take back this continent
and its peoples as subjects of a British colonial
rule.

[Visit our website series, "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush", to which
are attached secret Federal Reserve wire transfer records showing
billions and billions of dollars, from worldwide illicit dope
trafficking and such, to the joint account of the Bush family with the
Queen of England at her private bank, owned by the Queen, Coutts Bank London, as authorized under the secret codes of Greenspan.]

More coming. Stay tuned.

: OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBINGS---SPLIT IN FBI?

: by Sherman H. Skolnick

: 5/11/01

: skolnick@ameritech.net
: http://www.skolnicksreport.com
: A possible split in the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and
: other
: federal agencies, may open up various possiblities as to what
: really
: happened as to the bombings in Oklahoma City, April 19, 1995.
: And we use
: the term BOMBINGS in the plural advisedly, because some
: explosives
: experts contend fertilizer bombs in a front-of-the-building
: truck could
: not have wrecked the building pillars as
: occurred. Background: President Clinton felt his power
: slipping away. The 1994
: Congressional elections, considered by fellow Democrats as a
: Clinton-caused disaster, brought in a noisy GOP majority. In
: the spring
: of 1995, a small group of highly patriotic flag officers were
: plotting
: to arrest their Commander-in-Chief Clinton for giving military
: secrets
: to the Red Chinese, a sworn enemy of the U.S.; an arrest
: provided for
: and authorized under the military code. As titular head of
: both the U.S.
: civilian and military Establishment, Clinton, on the other
: hand, could
: have arrested the 24 Admirals and Generals for mutiny. If they
: were not
: assassinated, they intended to defend themselves with proof,
: such as
: Clinton giving, to the head of the Red Chinese Secret Police,
: in the
: White Houuse and elsewhere, U.S. financial, industrial, and
: MILITARY
: secrets. Giving aid and comfort to a sworn enemy of the U.S.,
: the
: classical definition of
: treason.
: Clinton felt he could nevertheless control the situation,
: notwithstanding the plot against him. Just prior to the 1994
: elections
: was appointed to investigate Bill and Hillary, a supposed
: "Independent
: Counsel", Kenneth W. Starr. But Starr had built-in
: conflicts of
: interest, as Clinton was aware. Starr had as a private law
: client, Wang
: Jun, head of the Red Chinese Secret Police. Wang Jun also
: headed a Red
: Chinese military-owned company that made and marketed AK-47
: submachine
: guns, intended for shipment to U.S. inner-city narco-terrorist
: street
: gangs, for shoot-em-ups with big city police, to destabilize
: the U.S.
: government.
: Moreover, Starr was reportedly the UNREGISTERED foreign
: lobbyist for the
: Red Chinese government. Starr was thus subject at any time, to
: Clinton
: Justice Department
: punishment.

: [Visit our extensive website series, "Red Chinese Secret
: Police IN THE UNITED STATES".]
: On Monday, April 17, 1995, a military jet planeload of top
: military was
: enroute to Dallas. They had onboard what is not supposed to
: exist, an
: American prisoner-of-war, prepared to finger the Pentagon as
: perpetuated
: by Clinton, as continuing the POW/Missing in Action cover-up
: from the
: Viet Nam war. From sabotage, the plane blew up in the air,
: killing all
: onboard, near Alexander City, Alabama. The Pentagon made every
: effort
: to cover up what happened. Families of the victims were
: reportedly not
: permitted to have any possessions or details. There are strong
: reasons
: to believe the plane had a portion of a group of "Seven
: Days in May"
: style military officers plotting a coup against the White
: House.
: Thereafter, the small group of other flag officers, out of
: uniform, took
: up residence in a Paris suburb. A year later, the Chief of
: Naval
: Operations, Admiral Jeremy Boorda, apparently aware of the
: coup, was
: assassinated and covered up as a "suicide", a
: favorite whitewash by the
: monopoly press. And about the time of Boorda's murder, was
: assassinated
: William Colby, former Director of Central Intelligence. He
: reportedly
: was assisting the plotters with detailed data. Colby's death
: was
: explained by the pressfakers as a "boat accident",
: although his friends
: contend it was
: murder.

: Clinton, as President, was fully aware that Oklahoma City had
: as
: residents, a large number of Iraqi military officers and their
: families,
: some officers of Iraqi Intelligence units, supposed defectors
: after the
: Persian Gulf War, 1991, brought into the U.S. by President
: George
: Herbert Walker Bush. Iraq, as Clinton knew, was planning a
: revenge
: terrorist attack against a federal office building in Oklahoma
: City,
: using U.S. dissidents as surrogates, but insulated from the
: actual Iraqi
: handlers. The FBI, the CIA, and other in the intelligence
: community,
: have pictures and records showing the Iraqi military officers
: supervising the Murrah Building bombings. [Local Oklahoma TV
: reporters
: confirming this in part were fired or otherwise
: punished.]

: Little if at all publicized was that prior to the Timothy
: McVeigh trial,
: the head of his defense team, Stephen Jones, filed an
: extra-ordinary
: petition in the Federal Appeals court, called Petition for
: Mandamus. It
: sought to force the Denver trial judge who was set to hear the
: McVeigh
: murder case removed from Oklahoma City, to release certain
: secret
: documents possessed by various federal intelligence agencies.
: Referring
: to the secret as well as public court records, Jones' Petition
: pointed
: out that U.S. intelligence agencies were aware of Iraqi
: complicity in
: the Murrah Building bombing. For apparent reasons of
: "national
: security", a catch-all whitewash excuse, the federal
: appeals court
: rejected the Petition and the McVeigh murder trial, minus the
: revealing
: records,
: proceeded.

: A U.S. Secret Service Agent, Witcher, in a position to finger
: Clinton on
: other matters, was steered into occupying an office in the
: Murrah
: Building. He died in the disaster. [We have one of the few
: pictures of
: him.] Clinton, apparently faking remorse, later attended a
: memorial for
: the agent. At the time of the bombings, the U.S. Treasury's
: Bureau of
: Alcohol, Tobacco & Fire-Arms, headquartered in the Murrah
: Building, was
: planning an exercise as to how to "sting" or flush
: out would-be domestic
: terrorists. Something went wrong with their "sting"
: operation. The BATF
: knew not to have their personnel in the Alfred Murrah Building
: on that
: Wednesday, April 19, 1995. A local fire official was likewise
: warned. So
: was a local judge in a nearby building, warned of an expected
: bombing
: that
: day.

: Making a rare appearance on CBS' "Sixty Minutes"
: Program, Clinton
: described the tragedy as a "plot to overthrow the
: government". WIth his
: power and prestige waning prior to the bombings, Clinton with
: the
: complicity of the spy-riddled monopoly press, now urged the
: public to
: support and rally around their President. Clinton and the
: presswhores
: used the bombings as an excuse to want to punish and round-up
: U.S.
: domestic dissidents that were heckling the central government
: in
: Washington. [Similarly, when Adolph Hitler came to power, he
: had the
: German Parliament burned down and falsely blamed on
: dissidents, to
: consolidate his power and have an excuse to round-up opponents
: to the
: Nazi Party.]

: Right before the scheduled execution of McVeigh, an apparent
: split has
: developed in the FBI. There is reason to believe the split is
: also in
: other intelligence agencies. The target of the divergence is
: both
: current alleged "President" or White House
: "resident" George W. Bush and
: former President Clinton. Through his father, George W. Bush
: is in a
: position to know, and want to cover up, the complicity of the
: Iraqi
: officers on U.S. soil in the Oklahoma City bombings. Also,
: former
: President Clinton, somewhere in the future, may well be
: subject to
: federal criminal prosecution for treason and the murder of the
: 168 who
: died in the Murrah Building bombings. Are other records about
: to be
: revealed? Some believe
: so.

: Based on a little-known Federal case in Chicago, 1991, where I
: was the
: only spectator and journalist present, I did exclusive stories
: on how
: the Elder Bush in the decade of the 1980s, was a PRIVATE
: business
: partner of Iraqi strongman Saddam Hussein. Together, they
: shook down
: the weak sheikdoms in the Persian Gulf for billions and
: billions of
: dollars of oil kick-backs. The Persian Gulf War, in its
: simplest form,
: was merely two private business partners having a falling out
: and
: wanting to punish one another. Through foreign units of his
: firm,
: Halliburton, Vice President Richard Cheney has extensive
: business with
: Iraq on oil-country machinery and such. Prior to being Vice
: President,
: Cheney was CEO of Halliburton. Through Harken Energy, and a
: massive
: swindle, George W. Bush has extensive interests in the Persian
: Gulf and
: conflicts of interest as to Iraq as a so-called subdued
: "enemy" of the
: U.S.

: Tell me if you can WHAT IS THE REASON NONE DARE CALL THIS
: TREASON?

: More coming. Stay tuned.

:

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: 1963,
: Founder/Chairman, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts.
: Since
: 1991, a regular panelist and since 1995, moderator/producer of
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OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBINGS---SPLIT IN FBI?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK -- Friday, 11-May-2001 16:43:15
OKC BOMBINGS---SPLIT IN FBI? **FURTHER DETAILS**
SHERMAN SKOLNICK -- Friday, 11-May-2001 20:31:47
Murder and Titles of Honor Prohibited
Patriotlad -- Friday, 11-May-2001 23:51:36
Re: OKC BOMBINGS---SPLIT IN FBI? **FURTHER DETAILS
sunseer -- Sunday, 13-May-2001 10:22:04

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